Is potty parity, potty or parity? (Are New Yorkers taking the p*ss? No! They're giving the p*ss!)

From restrooms.org
You think it couldn't happen? Oh you naive fool!

New York debates doubling women's public toilets

New York's city council is debating a bill that would double the number of public toilets for women to shorten washroom lineups
The bill -- the "Restroom Equity Bill of New York" -- cites research that shows it often takes women twice as long to use the washroom as it does men. But at present, they get the same number of toilets, a situation it describes as "one of the most blatant, demeaning and visible forms of gender discrimination in our society."

Right! Men dying in wars, workplace accidents and suicides is nothing, but a woman has to wait in a queue? Why would you need any more evidence of a completely systematic and pervasive sexist bias.

Against men.

"In most stadiums, they have an equal amount of women's rooms and an equal amount of men's rooms," said Yvette Clarke, the Democratic council member from Brooklyn who is sponsoring the bill."
"Inevitably, there are always going to be women's lines while the men's rooms are pretty much vacant. We're saying, based on that ratio, let us convert some of those men's rooms to women's use, so women don't have put on their shades and run into the men's room when the line is too long for you."
An expert in "potty parity" hailed the bill as a major step forward. !Once women realize this is not inevitable or a biologically preordained situation, we can do something about it," said John Banzhaf, a public interest law professor at George Washington University in Washington, D.C.
He has written an article for a national legal publication suggesting a lack of adequate washroom facilities for women is a denial of their rights under the U.S. Constitution.
"Waiting in line may not sound very important, but surveys are indicating that many women are not going out to places, or not going out as frequently as they did, because they don't want to face those long lines," Prof.Banzhaf said
Washroom parity legislation is in force in at least 12 states and a handful of U.S. cities.

In POTTY PARITY, RESTROOM EQUITY, SQUATTERS RIGHTS in "FINAL FRONTIER FOR THE LAW?" Professor Banzhaf writes
A controversial topic raises interesting issues of whether equal protection and fairness require equal space, equal access, equal facilities, equal opportunity or, sometimes, equality of results.
For more than 20 years we have recognized that, with respect to race, it is unconstitutional to have restrooms that are separate but equal. On the other hand, with regard to the two sexes, the universal norm is restrooms that are separate and equal. But, in this context, what does "equal" mean?
Can women truly be said to be liberated when they often stand on interminable lines at the theater, concerts, some restaurants, and in other public places to perform a necessary and often compelling biological function that men usually accomplish with virtually no wait? Does this problem, which certainly can be corrected by adding additional toilet facilities, amount to unfair discrimination?

This implies that men should sit down. Doesn't this "oppress" men. No! Men standing up "oppresses" women. At Townhall.com Men must stand up Walter E. Williams writes women in Sweden, Germany and Australia have launched a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. Part of their demand is related to the "splash factor," but more crucially, men standing up to urinate is deemed by these women as triumphing in their masculinity, "a nasty macho gesture" and by extension degrading to women. Feminists at Stockholm University are campaigning to ban campus urinals and one Swedish elementary school has already removed urinals. I don't know about you, but if I don't tell women to stand up to urinate, they're not going to tell me to sit down to urinate.

From the same article - Young boys aren't spared from the feminist attack. At a Boston area elementary school, nobody objected when girls wore shirts emblazoned with "Girls Rule" or when they taunted boys with a chant that goes, "Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider; girls go to college to get more knowledge." But when boys donned shirts emblazoned with "Boys Are Good," there was protest. One of the teachers protesting sported a button saying, "So
many men, so little intelligence."

From Yoursay

SYDNEY, Australia— Young women in Australia and Sweden have a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. This demand comes partly from hygene concerns – avoiding the splash factor-but as reported in The Spectator magazine, “more
crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women”. Frieda Nightanvil of Women Arise Australia is gathering pledges from young men to abstain from urinal use and recommends they pour fast drying cement in to urinals around Sydney during the Olympics.
"We are hoping this will draw the attention of the world’s media to this ongoing fascist symbol of subjugation. This will be the last generation of males who will employ such tactics of oppression as the urinal. But it will be a struggle with the Cave Man mentality that even today is the mindset of too many Australian males”
Stockholm University is about to ban urinals on campus, and one Swedish elementary school has already removed them. Some Swedish women are pressuring their men to take a stand, so to speak. Yola, a 25-year old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. “What can I do?” said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits.

You might think this means that women are fundamentally opposed to any urinating whilst standing up. That it is a political act or oppressive. Don't be silly. Quicker than you can say "double standards". It is purely a matter of convenience, you might say, when they are doing it.

What's the deal with urinals in women's restrooms?

Most major American manufacturers discontinued women's urinals for various reasons decades ago. They were introduced into this country from Europe in the early 30s (along with the bidet, which is still being made), and were intended as a convenience for women who did not want their delicate flesh coming into contact with yukky public toilet seats.
Basically the urinals featured a protruding narrow bowl that the user was expected to straddle while facing the wall, having first lowered her panties and hiked
up her skirt, whereupon she could do her thing. I'm not getting a good picture in my mind of how this was supposed to work, and frankly I don't think I want
to. Women apparently had the same problem, because the popularity of the fixtures declined significantly in the 60s, resulting in their ultimate demise

However at restrooms.org there is still advice for the woman

Woman's Guide on how to Pee Standing Up

When the original Woman’s Guide on How to Pee Standing was first created in 1997, we only had the “finger-assist” method, listed halfway down this page. A lot of water has gone under the bridge since then. We’ve had over three million visitors to the Guide, and thousands of women from all walks of life, from doctors to forest firefighters, to policewomen have sent us encouraging e-mail, sharing their mostly positive thoughts on this very personal topic.

Diane: I’m starting to think women have been kept in the dark about this for a reason. Maybe Oliver Stone will do a movie...
I'm sure she's joking. I think....

Janice: Its much more exciting and daring to pee standing up at urinals.

Emily: I also developed a method which enables me to pee through the open zip of my jeans as conveniently as a man.

Gabrielle: When I start to pee, I push hard to start a strong stream, and push again at the end to keep the stream up until I’m done. I find that I have good control over where the stream goes, and it’s a pretty clean process.

So there you have it. We have to have equal outcomes for women. The day I even hear someone advocate in public equal outcomes for men, I will break open a bottle of champagne (and I don't really like champagne). We could insist that they use urinals which apparently they can do, but that would "oppress" them. Men and boys can be forced to sit down, and there's a potential health impact on the prostrate, but that doesn't oppress them. Even if you stand up in private it is "asserting your masculinity" and therefore "oppressing" women.

There's only one solution, apart from telling them to stick it in their urinal, we have to have equal outcomes for men. Any biological feature that is worse for men than women requires extra facilities and effort to make sure we have an equal outcome. Therefore based on everything I've heard about both the quantity and quality for women, I hereby demand that women accommodate equal outcome for men in this matter, and that there is legislation to get it. In short, I demand an Orgasm Equity Bill.

Comments

[Pete Mayer]

Let me get this straight: twice as many bathrooms for women 'cause it takes them twice as long to go, and men must pee sitting down. Did anyone stop to think that by forcing men to sit (how they will accomplish that is beyond me), it will take men twice as long as it does now. Then - on top of that - we will have half as many bathrooms, the end result being quadruplicating the length of our lines? I guess this is just payback for all those years of oppression.

[Raymond Cuttill]

What years of oppression?

[David]

To Whom It May Concern,

For several years I had some issues concerning men's restrooms and why many of them are not "private" including when the doors frequently swing open, females that are passing by (or standing there to try and communicate to someone in there) can see men in plain view using the restroom due to the way the urinals are built in front of the doors (and not the sinks or stalls). Recently I have been hearing of rumors of proposed legislation, which, if passed, would allow females to go into male restrooms in emergencies and long lines even while males are using them.

I found a website called restrooms.org, read some of the issues of women waiting in long lines to use restrooms and some even going into the men's room while men are in there. It should be a law that should be enforced because if a man went into the ladies room, he would be ticketed, fine, jailed, ten-to-twenty, end-of-story.

Here is the commentary I sent to this website (I don't know if this site is based in the U.S. or if it is still active):

Sincerely,
David Robinson

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I have read some sites about legislation for women to go in men's room even with men using them when the women's room lines are long. I think that would be wrong. Yes, men maybe facing the urinals doing their busines but when most men see women coming in to invade their male privacy, they may do some thing to make these women feel uncomfortable: expose themselves to them, going to the closed stalls to peek at these women, do "strip shows," install video cameras in stalls (and producing these videos online), and other sexual harrassment. Most men are not that mature no matter the location (even at a symphony orchestra concert. Many of those concerts serve alcoholic beverages beforehand). Women may even bring their little girls in there as well, which creates a situation for pedophilia. In other words, the entire situation can be a set up for men to get arrested for these indecent acts.
Sexual situations will arise in tenagers, which can result in the spread of diseases and pregnancy. The women's room in school might be empty but some girls may want to go to the men's room to harrass, tease, or seduce the boys. These situations also breed and can increase immorality.

Girls are taught to be private with their genetalia. Boys are not (and they should be). That is not fair for females to invade the privacy of men in the resrooms. It is not fair for males to go into (occupied) female restrooms. Therefore, let's continue to keep them separated by law and ethics.
One solution is to build more women's restrooms. Another is to build those co-ed restrooms where there are floor-to-ceiling doors to separate each toilet. Maybe later once devices like the She-Pee" and the "P-Mate" become more popular among women, more women's restrooms could be built with urinals.
Oh, the thing about restroom doors especially at stadiums where the men's room door is open and they can be seen urinating, these restrooms should be rebuilt. Those sinks (and even stalls) are hidden away from public view but the urinals with the men using them aren't. The men's rooms should be built with some type of barrier to shield outside view of women passing by (or womenn at the door sticking their heads in calling for their little boys to hurry up). Women and girls should not be allowed to watch men and boys pee. We don't get to watch females pee. Maybe this is an issue that the ACLU should take up.
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[Arthur]

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[New York Porta Potty]

What, you don't like title 9...? you know the one that strips universities of their football programs in place of women's rowing... you know the big money maker in the NCAA is crew.