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Summary:
Part 1: 19:04-26:57
Today we'll be asking if fathers are getting a fair deal.
Fathers 4 Justice are angered at what they see as unfair rules. [what they see...]
40% of marriages end in divorce, of 50,000 divorces every year, 80% of the time they stay with their mother. The Government has been looking at this and a mediation scheme was announced 10 days ago.
Margaret Hodge (speech to parliament)
"I do believe that fathers are now much more engaged in their child's lives"
[Raymond: Not quite sure why fathers have to prove they are engaged with their child. Mother's don't]
Unnamed father:
Last saw my children Christmas Day 2003.
I'm going through a period of mourning
It is far too upsetting to go into my children's rooms.
13 court orders state that there should be contact.
Not worth the paper they're written on.
She's been allowed to manipulate the system.
They pay for her solicitous and barristers, whereas I have to represent myself.
If I decided to take the children for a weekend I would be facing prosecution.
They're missing out on a dad, granddad, dog, rabbit.
Missing out on, in effect, half of their life"
Gary Burke:
"100 children every day lose contact with a decent parent"
Narrator:
"Is the problem really that big? After all, in 2002 55,000 contacts orders are awarded every year and only about 500 fathers were denied contact"
Gary:
"How many orders were for meaningful contact. Enough time for a real loving relationship.
How much time for grandparents?
How many orders are enforced? About 1 in 2 orders are simply ignored. Courts do nothing"
Narrator:
"There was high profile stunts like Spiderman. You were Superman on a recent march.
In order to have a serious debate is that the right way to go about it"
Gary:
"Parent rights groups have been trying to have a debate for 30 years. Until the last couple of weeks the Government has not taken it seriously.
Prince Charles and the Chief Rabbi have now commented for fathers."
Narrator
There has been doors painted purple and, perhaps by other groups, hoax bombs. Isn't that rather threatening?
Gary:
"F4J had absolutely nothing to do with the hoax bombs.
What drives a father to go to top of a crane?"
[Raymond: I've said before that the hoax bombs will always get a mention]
Narrator:
What would you say to the government?
Gary:
We have a crisis in the family. A report from the department of pensions basically said that fathers are redundant.
To Margaret Hodge - why won't you reply to my letters, why can't we have proper debate.
Part 2: 48:45-54:00
Narrator:
Many fathers I been speaking do feel very strongly that the legal system is discriminating against them, but let's find out if that is really the case.
[Raymond: Can't take the fathers word for it, of course]
Introduces:
Colin Cheeseman, FNF
William Longwick ,SFLA
Carol Hart, Birmingham Women's Advice Centre
[Raymond: Notice how no member of F4J is in this segment]
Colin:
"Fathers are frustrated by having contact orders, but nothing is done"
William:
"Were people can reach agreement themselves, then the agreement works. We're looking at a system were people can reach agreement themselves"
Narrator:
"All too often that's not the case and father's say the courts are biased against them"
William:
"DCA has just published a paper saying there are going to be some pilot schemes (about mediation). Designed to move away from the courts, although we don't know the details yet."
Carol:
(About fathers denied access) "We cannot make the assumption that all those parents are good. We would like further legislation to make children safe. Supervised contact centres is the only option."
[Raymond: Apparently we make that assumption about mothers]
Narrator:
"After divorce more than 80% of children stay with their mother. Is that right?"
Carol: confused
Colin:
(About losing contact after divorce) "You must look at courts as part of the problem"
William
"We sympathise very much. There are more recent statistics that say a lot of fathers have contact as much as once a fortnight. The courts look at what's in the best interests of the children"
Narrator:
"Tomorrow we'll be looking at CAFCASS"
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